WMAA recently interviewed Officer Al Ramos. A Chicago Police Officer familiar with the affects, consequences, and habits of those committing acts of domestic violence. Members submitted questions for Officer Ramos to answer.........along with his answers are the responses of a survivor of domestic violence. Here is her story.....
My name is Monica and I am a domestic
violence victim. Such a simple statement but it took me years to be able
to say that out loud and also to myself. I want to share my experience in
hopes it helps someone else. Once I finally admitted it and sought out
help, it was important for me to know I wasn't alone. Because while I was
in the abusive marriage, I felt very alone and very afraid. I was
afraid of my husband and also of the stigma of being an abuse
victim and failing in my marriage. I now realize there is no shame,
embarrassment or failure associated with abuse - I was a victim, it was not my
fault. I want to share my perspective on these questions (and others you
may have) but keep in mind it is based on my experience. And each abuse
victim's experience and story is different - we are from all different economic,
social and cultural backgrounds. For me, I was a
victim once. I knew my ex for 14 months before we married and was married
for one year before the physical abuse started. At the time, it took me by
surprise; in retrospect, there were definitely signs he was an abuser (educate
yourself on the signs.) I made significantly more money than him so I was
not financially reliant on him. I never told anyone about the violence
until I got a temporary OOP (order of protection) and filed for
divorce. I never called the police during/after any violent event.
And while I was able to get a temporary OOP when I filed for divorce (which got
him out of the house) he contested the OOP and because there were no police
records of the violence, I lost my OOP. I am lucky that he never came
after me once I filed for divorce but every day in every way I am conscious that
he still may and live with a heightened sense of personal security. I now
have Krav Maga skills and the mental fortitude to defend myself and I would call
the police if he (or anyone else) abused me. I have learned that the
documentation is also a critical part of my safety. I know you are
thinking it, so here goes: why didn't
I leave until the violence severely escalated 1.5 years later? That takes
a while to answer (and a lot of therapy.) Luckily, I did leave and
am here on the other side of the violence happier and healthier. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, need some support or just want to talk about your situation.contact monica
WMAA: What advice can you give a woman who is abused by her husband, and says she really wants to press charges and have him locked up, but is afraid because he will most likely bond out in less than 24 hrs?
OFFICER RAMOS : When a person is arrested for domestic battery, he/she cannot have any contact with the victim for the first 72 hours or he/she will be considered in violation of the bond. After being arrested, the person must see a judge in the morning and, based on his/her criminal history, the judge will determine if the person can bond out or be held until the court date. My advice to the victim would be to relocate (e.g., family member or friend’s home, hotel) and to call the police immediately if the abuser does have contact with him/her so that the person is arrested again and held until the court date.
MONICA: The fear is there
whether you report him or not. I never even called the police but I still
lived in fear of him every day. You need the police report(s) to prove he
is a criminal and you are a victim. The cycle of violence will not end on
its own, you need to act and protect yourself physically and legally. And
yes, your fear will increase once you call the police and/or get an Order of
Protection (as I did) but it is a necessary step to get beyond the
violence.
WMAA: If a woman does press charges, how do you keep the abuser out of the house once and for all? How long does it take to get a restraining order and what happens to the abuser who completely ignores the restraining order and goes after his victim again? Are there any new laws coming out to give the woman more of a fighting chance?
OFFICER RAMOS: “Restraining order” is a term that is no longer used. First, you should get an order of protection as soon as possible after the abuser has been arrested so that he may be notified of the order. For Chicago residents, this must be done on a weekday at 555 W. Harrison, which is Domestic Violence Court. You need to bring a copy of the police report and go before a judge who will determine the conditions of the order of protection (e.g., no visits at work, no contact by any means). Once the abuser is made aware of the order, he/she can be arrested if any of the conditions of the order are violated. The order is only useful if the protected party is willing and prepared to report any violations by the abuser to the police.
MONICA: After I filed for divorce and
wanted a permanent Order of Protection the fact that there were no police
reports really hurt my case. An OOP is a civil matter, violating the
OOP is criminal. If he never violates it, he will not have a criminal
record. Even knowing that my ex fought (and won) against a
permanent OOP. If he denies it ever happened and would not hurt me why did
he fight it? That's something I never could understand. He was
"lucky" I never called the police and had charges brought against
him. I was able to get a
temporary OOP the day I filed for divorce. The judge believed my story and
fear of him as I filed for divorce and how he would react to that. Since
he had family and friends he could stay with, she removed him from the
home. The police did have to enforce his removal (I made sure I was not in
the house when he received the order) and he never was in the house with me
alone again. I am "fortunate" that he never came after me again. I
truly believe that for me, getting the temporary OOP stopped my cycle of
violence. Once I was no longer silent, got the temporary OOP and he
knew I would take legal action he became "afraid" to do anything else to
me. It changed from me being afraid of him to him being afraid of getting
in trouble with the law.
WMAA: How far can a police officer go with a man or woman who has abused their spouse? Do you get any training in how to handle domestic disputes?
OFFICER RAMOS: When police respond to a call of domestic disturbance and observe any signs of injury, they can arrest the abuser without the victim signing a complaint. However, it may get tricky if both parties have injuries. The outcome then depends on other factors, such as credibility of the parties involved and an officer’s experience in handling similar types of cases. Officers receive domestic violence training both in the police academy and throughout their career.
MONICA:
Since I never filed a report, my only experience with the police was
when my ex came to get belongings from the house after he was
removed. It was a pre-arranged time and the police had to be present when
he came. I don't know what I expected but I must say the police were very
professional and even supportive of me. There were always 2-4 officers in
the house, 1-2 would stay with me, the others with my ex. They ensured my
ex did not come near me or frankly even address me. The officers that
stayed with me were friendly and understanding. They answered many of my
questions and further encouraged me to call anytime if I need them. I got
to know a few of them and I am confident they watched out for me as they
promised.
WMAA: If you respond to a call and the wife injures her spouse in defense, can the husband press charges against the wife, even though you have had several calls of domestic abuse where the husband beat up the wife?
OFFICER RAMOS: Yes. In any situation, either party can press charges. The outcome, again, would depend on the specific circumstances surrounding each incident (e.g., evidence, interviews, credibility).
MONICA: I never experienced this but can
only hope that the judge would have enough sense to see what really
happened. To be honest, I found the police a lot more sensitive and in
tune to domestic violence than the judges I encountered on my quest for a
permanent OOP.
WMAA: As a police officer, what can you do when you are called to the same location repeatedly and, even though the beatings keep getting worse, the victim will not press charges out of fear?
OFFICER RAMOS: By law, after a police officer observes injuries, he/she is mandated by law to arrest the abuser even if the victim refuses to press charges out of fear.
MONICA: Here is that word fear again. While I was
in the violent marriage I certainly had a twisted definition of that
word. I was afraid of failing at my marriage, afraid to be labeled an
abuse victim, afraid people would find out, afraid to be alone (he was the only
one that loved me, right?) and oh yeah, afraid of him. Now I see that
where I should have focused my fear on is my personal safety & preservation,
first and foremost. Not only is the violence a cycle but the violence escalates
as time goes on. This is where everyone's story is different. For
me, the level of violence escalated rapidly in 1.5 years but for someone else it
may take 5 years to get to that level. That's why it is hard to compare
stories/experiences. But what is common is that the cycle will not end on
its own and it will not get less violent, only more. By calling the police
and filing charges, you are taking steps for self preservation and to get beyond
the violence. Either way you have fear, it becomes a matter of which
"fear" will ultimately end the cycle. I look back at the most
violent episode with my ex. After it ended would have been the time to
call the police and report it. I cannot imagine calling them while he was
in the throes of the violence but I probably could have found some time alone to
call afterwards. At the time I thought he was really sorry because he
cleaned up all the blood and broken household items as well as helped with my
wounds. I now realize he was just cleaning up the evidence and closely
watching me to ensure I would keep quiet. If only I saw then when I can so
clearly see
now.
We would like to thank Officer Ramos for his input. if you have further questions regarding domestic violence, or other issues, please contact us.
What is Abuse? - A Warning List
Many
people who are being abused do not see themselves as victims. Also,
abusers do not see themselves as being abusive. People often think of
domestic violence as physical violence, such as hitting. However,
domestic violence takes other forms, such as psychological, emotional,
or sexual abuse.
Domestic violence is about one person in a
relationship using a pattern of behaviors to control the other person.
It can happen to people who are married or not married; heterosexual,
gay, or lesbian; living together, separated, or dating.
If your partner repeatedly uses one or more of the following to control you;
- pushing, hitting, slapping, choking, kicking, or biting
- threatening you, your children, other family members or pets
- threatening suicide to get you to do something
- using or threatening to use a weapon against you
- keeping or taking your paycheck
- puts you down or makes you feel bad
- forcing you to have sex or to do sexual acts you do not want or like
- keeping you from seeing your friends, family or from going to work
YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED!!
Remember threatened or actual physical violence may be illegal. Consider calling the police for help